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bianconero
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 3:44 pm    Post subject: Space music Reply with quote

Hi,

I've been following this website for quite some time now. I even once made it to Deepspace, but since there's an ocean in between that very sweet evening so far hasn't repeated itself. I'm quite acquainted with the music that fits into the deep space philosophy, which in some ways could be (almost) anything (but then again not). So a lot of music can be dubbed out, be transformed in ways that the original composer probably never would have thought of.

What would you members of the deepspacecommunity consider to be the best tracks, songs, musical compositions that are totally space, as opposed to deep space. It would be music that is fluffier, more towards the higher end of the spectrum, music you mostly dance to in just your head.

I mean music that hasn't necessarily has a dub philosophy, but where there's is a lot of space still in the music.

It's very hard to describe what I mean but it would be music where you have the feeling of floating in a jelly-like medium in, well, outer space. It's music that probably doesn't have a dominant beat, but where things keep op evolving. Probably completely eletronic stuff with no vocals, but who knows. It shouldn't probably be fit into a specific musical mold, but what would you consider to be music that transmits that feeling the best? It's maybe more a feeling than anything else but how do you float in space?

Don't know wether I make any sense, but to give some orientation of what I have in mind I would mention the following

Time Melts - 7th Plain (Luke Slater)
Leaving Me - Aril Brikha
Waterfall or Desert Island - Petar Dundov
Followed by Angels - Mathew Jonson
Theme from it's all gone pearshaped by Digital Justice
maybe Sunrain by Ash Ra Temple (all of New Age of Earth Really)

Any suggestions would be massively appreciated,

Regards,
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 4:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The ultimate "floating" song for me has to be Derrick May's mix of "Sueno Latino"... I've always thought of it as the equivalent of a Roadrunner/Wile E Coyote cartoon, where the characters run off a cliff and don't fall down (well, until Coyote looks down Wink). Some times I've played it, people don't even notice the kick has stopped.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 1:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry, I have been trying to answer this post, but I seem to have trouble making the distinction between 'Total Space' and 'Deep Space'... is this evolving towards ambient kinds of sounds?

Serial / Electroacoustic / New Age / Glitch (like Pan Sonic) ?

Things on EM:T or Pete Namlook ?

Alva Noto? Steve Roach ?

Most of the songs you quote as an example would seem to fit in the Techno category, with a clearly defined beat or pulse.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 3:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I don't know if I really know myself what I mean by space music. Maybe it's music that doesn't exist yet. Anyway, it could mean different things to different people. Reminds me of a discussion about what 'Balearic' means. Same with 'deep space' I suppose. It's not a genre, but a state of mind and a sort of way of approaching sound and creating space in and with that sound.

To tauri, yes that remix is definitely space music. As E2-E4 probably is. I
think Luke Slater's Dreams of Children is too.

To François, no I don't mean ambient, or Noto or anything in that mold. It's too slow and there just isn't enough 'action' going on in that music to me.
On the ambient front I do like Global Communication for instance but that's
too slow also.

I've been thinking about it, and what I like, really like about the tracks I've mentioned, is that there really isn't a dominant beat to me but a sort of musical piano or synth-line that's a basis and keeps being used again and
again, but with that line and superposed effects things keep on evolving. To put it properly they fuck with it. It keeps repeating itself but you have the impression it keeps going higher and higher, keeps building. Some sort of aural 'trompe-l'oeuil'. And there is certainly some drive, some sort of momentum in the music I dream of.

That being said I do suppose it's hard to define what it exactly is, but who knows, I might live the day that it's become a genre in it's own right. If this reply has made things more clear (or even more confused), I'd love to hear
your thoughts or suggestions on it.

Cheers,
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DjPeterMunch
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 3:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Bianconero,

Do you know Chris Carter? You might find this track "Interloop" interesting


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Originally recorded between 1974 and 1978 at Industrial Records studio in London, Chris Carter’s The Space Between album was first released as a 90 minute cassette in 1980 on Throbbing Gristle’s Industrial Records label.

It wasn’t until 1991 that it was again released by Mute Records on CD. Although tracks from The Space Between have appeared on numerous compilations since its release, the album has never been available on vinyl until now.

A new vinyl edition on Optimo Music, now retitled The Spaces Between, doesn’t include all the tracks of the original album but has been enhanced and remastered from the original two-track master tapes and has new cover artwork especially for this release.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello Peter Munch,

yes we definitely have a contender for space music here. Have to check some more youtube samples out, but space music does already have a respectable body of work. Keep looking (or listening for that matter).

Cheers
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